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Yeah, I know, its still only May, but I saw JaMarcus Russell on the front page of the Sporting Green last week, so it can't be totally out of line to talk some football.
My topic today-- who not to pick first in fantasy football drafts this summer.
Tom Brady -- Don't do it. You don't get to count his 2007 numbers. Sure Brady will come back with a vengeance from his embarrassing performance in the Super Bowl, but expect more like 32-35 TDs and 3800 yards without Moss to stretch the field-...
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19-May-2008 21:56
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Chad Johnson is a cry baby.... Chad Johnson said he'll report on time for the Cincinnati Bengals' training camp next weekend, but his surgically repaired ankle will probably prevent him from fully participating.
Boo hoo hoo... this guy doesn't even want to play for them and he thinks he is a elite receiver. I don't think so... what has he done Nothing... he is an entertainer not a ball player. he should join the WWE.
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30-Jul-2008 19:11
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Rodgers is a plain back up QB with no experince in leading a team. If he turns out to be the starting QB I predict he will last 1/2 way through the season and then they will all say we should have kept Favre. Better yet bring back doug Flutie as there QB he is probably better then Rodgers....
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30-Jul-2008 08:08
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13-3 last year, a loss in overtime in the Conference Championship and one play from getting into the SuperBowl, their starting quarterback is runnerup for MVP. Last year was a great year for Green Bay!  Much of the last year's team is back and their star quarterback decides to come out of retirement. And they don't want him? Are they crazy? Does anyone really think they are a better team this year with Aaron Rogers? Don't...
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07-Aug-2008 19:00
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Ted Thompson had this coming since his arrival in Green Bay. He wasted a first round draft pick on Rodgers with his first draft. To avoid not looking like a total idiot, he had to put Rodgers on the field before Aaron's contract was up. Of course as we all know over these past few weeks, Thompson ended up looking like a total idiot anyway.
I don't agree with the decision, but they had to make it after all the ill will they created with their treatment of Brett.
By the way they don't need t...
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08-Aug-2008 12:53
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elswede
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The truth of the matter is that this current administration never wanted to keep Favre. They dangled this "open competition" thing out there and now they have the mother of all circuses on their hands. The mismanagement of having Favre as the hall of fame QB began with Ted Thompson choosing Rodgers with a first round draft pick rather than selecting a player to help win a ring with Brett. Now they have allowed the situation spiral into the worst situation for everyone.
If Aaron Rodgers is ou...
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Kummy
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I disagree I think the players know that if Brett is there they have a chnace to win. I think management also thinks this that is why they don't want to release him or trade him. Yes there has been some mis-management on this issue but i guess they figure they can't turn back the clock and accept him back with open arms....
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elswede
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OK, this takes away all the emotional crap around when did Brett retire and why?
The answer is simple, Brett Favre had one of his best years last year. There is no reason to believe there would be any major falloff between last year and this. If anything there could be some improvement as the young receivers have some experience, Grant is established as a runner so they can't just drop back in pass coverage and the line is that much more solidified.
What are the chances that Rodgers even m...
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Cheesehead
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I'm going to put forth a crazy hypothesis: maybe, just maybe, the coach, president and GM, who watch these guys play every day, actually think Rodgers is the better QB. It would have been infinitely easier for the Packers to take Favre back. Do you think McCarthy, his former QB coach, a guy who probably knows Favre's skills as well or better than anyone, would have made this decision lightly? Do you think he is pursuing a course that would make his team worse? Hurt his own career?
Brett i...
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Mike Trigg
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I put the full blame for this situation on Favre. I love the guy, but the BS he has pulled this year (and the past several years, for that matter) is inexcusable. This is the opposite of a team player. The reality is, Packers fans, we all have to move on from the Favre era. And Favre, himself, has to move on. He's created a giant mess, caused irreparable damage to the team, created a no-win situation for everyone, and whipped up one of the most over-blown, over-hyped media carnivals in rece...
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The Keg
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Holy crap Batman! This might be the most important issue to face the NFL in the last twenty years! Or wait . . . maybe nobody 20 miles outside of Waukesha cares!...
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Cheesehead
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This whole thing is just so regrettably sad. I wish Favre hadn't been such a moron and retired in the first place. But every day this whole debacle drags out, it further tarnishes my opinion of him and hurts his legacy. Is he really going to end his relationship on this kind of bad terms with the team he played for his entire career??? BRETT, JUST STOP!!! PLEASE!!!!!...
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You think Ted Thompson is making this decision solo??? No one in the Packers organization wants Favre back. The reality is last season is a fluke for a 38-year-old QB. If Favre had put up a season like he had the previous 3 years, nobody would be clinging on to the belief that he's still an elite QB. Do I think it's possible that he could "throw more TDs than INTs" (not a very high bar of accomplishment, by the way), sure. But do I think it's PROBABLE? No. I don't.
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PackersWest
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Let us not blame Brett for all of this. While he did make a mistake in retiring. Ted T. is to blame for not allowing him to come back. We play for superbowls not developing a team for the future or going down some mystical road that Ted talks about in his press conferences. It is not over, never was, the season starts in September. Prediction: Ted T. will be gone after this season is over and Favre will end up on a team with a winning record and throw more TDs than INTs....
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Cheesehead
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This fiasco with Favre is my worst case scenario as a Packers fan realized. The only way Favre could have more dramatically tarnished his reputation and his legacy would have been if he'd gone on a tri-state killing spree -- and, even then, if one of the three states had been Illinois or Minnesota, he probably would have gotten off in the court of Packer public opinion. But instead we have to deal with this giant goat rodeo of a media spectacle. I was so upset that he retired in the first pla...
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I'm not sure I really understand your argument. I agree with most of what you said. He's creating a mess, probably for nothing, and probably one that will get worse before it gets better. I think the majority of Packer fans already don't want him back -- I saw a poll to that effect, and read that there was a "rally" in support of Favre in Milwaukee at which only 30 people showed up. I almost don't want to watch the news coverage of this, because it *does* ruin my image of who he is and what he's meant to the organization. The fact that he'd want to end his career on a bad note with the team he's played for almost his entire career is really hard to swallow.
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Packer Backer
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What did you expect? I love Brett Favre but he's an emotional, confused professional football player. He says what he thinks. He has almost no filter. He thinks that he is bigger than the organization and who is telling him something different. He thinks he can throw balls through people and he thinks he can run through the Packers. This thing would die if: 1) The Packers fans (like me) make it clear to him that they are tired of this. He has to be a man and stick to his decision as hard ...
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elswede
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This is such a simple question. He could start on just about every team in the NFL with the exception of Indy and New England. He is healthy. His arm is still strong, ESPN says he is throwing 50 yard passes on a rope to high school players in Mississippi and he is one of the best to ever play the position.
The question is not whether he should play it is where. As a packer fan I am hopelessly biased, however, in the win now environment of the NFL he is still the best QB on the Packer roster....
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Kummy
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I think Brett is just excited. like most athletes when a new season starts they get excited and want to play. Is that the right decision? No once you retire you should stay retired. coming back will just diminish his legacy and expose his weaknesses. I like Brett but he should just stay at home or take a trip to some place where they don't know anything about the NFL or ESPN, like Bouvetøya (Bouvet Island)...
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You have some good points but, he is getting up there and one you say the words "retire" you should stick to it. If he does come back he would be taking a big gamble especially if he fails to do anything.
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Smackalicious
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What a fuckin' joke this guy is. I would pay $34 mil for him to NOT be on my team. Give me Burress any day - all the talent with less whining. Showboats like TO are destructive to team morale. Look at Shockey -- I love the guy, but the G-men did better without his constant bitching....
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Mike Trigg
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I'm no fan of TO's attitude. He's high maintenance, and whiney. A media hog with a manic-depressive personality who thinks the universe revolves around him. But that pretty much describes every top-tier WR in the league. How do you not give a game changer like that the money? I actually think TO has made a huge impact in Dallas, particularly now that the Big Tuna is gone. And, he has shown that, in the right situation on the right time, he can be only moderately disruptive. Moss in New England w...
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Mike Trigg
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Breaking news from Eagles camp: Donovan McNabb is injured! McNabb is the anti Brett Favre. He's only 31, but he plays like he's 41. Now he's out of training camp with tendinitis, and as reminded in this article, "McNabb hasn't played an injury-free season since leading the Eagles to the Super Bowl in 2004."
http://sports.espn.go....
The Eagles have to get rid of that guy. He's a great player, but you're virtually gu...
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Cheeze Wit
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I'll take the over on that bet Packer weenie. Does every rant begin with a reference to his holiness Brett "vicodin" Farve. In case you haven't been watching the weather he is pulling what is called a veteran move. It's 100 degrees in Philly and he'd rather be inside downing a cold Coors and have a Cheese Wit.
Whether I like him or not, he is still one of the top 10 QBs in the league and the Iggles will finish better than the Pack....
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SmackDaddy
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I read with amazement the following headline on ESPN.com (and, sadly, on my beloved smacknatter.com) this morning:
“Big Brown being treated for left front hoof injury”
Admittedly, I didn’t read the article. My first and only reaction was a childish snicker to myself at the name Big Brown.
Anyway, this got me thinking: does anyone really care about horseracing? Yeah, I know that it seems cool to pretend that we follow the races each year and we like to act like we know what we’re tal...
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Smackalicious, we meet again!
I agree that a day at the races can be fantastic and I’m all about it. On Melbourne Cup day, I get into the spirit of things, head to the track, and enjoy a great day out drinking and punting. But that doesn’t make me a fan.
A “fan” supports a club/team/player. A “fan” knows history. A “fan” knows the rules intimately. A “fan” knows (and usually hates) the commissioner (or equiv) of the sporting body. A “fan” gets absorbed and, a key point here, does it all-year... not just 1-2 days/year! Those who watch a sport 1-2 days/year cannot claim to be fans- an “interested party”, yes- but not fans in the true sense of the word.
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Smackalicious
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OK SmackDaddy, I'll take this bait. Pretty bold of you to make this declaration less than a week from the ultimate horse racing event: the Belmont Stakes, right here in my own home town. There's no question horse racing doesn't hold the same place as the top sports (football, baseball, basketball, hockey), but when you start comparing it to second class sports like NASCAR, give me horse racing any day. It's more than a sport, it's a culture. It's nostalgia. It's tradition. And, this year, it's a...
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Mike Trigg
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First off, let me be totally clear that I have no love for the New England Patriots. I'm a green-and-yellow blooded Packers fan, and, in fact, largely detest the Pats and Belichick. But for God's sake, I wish this spygate thing would just go away! The horse has been more than beaten to death, it's being turned into hamburgers. You'd think that after Goodell, who you know wants to nail Belichick more than anything, found NOTHING after a three-hour interview with wannabe whistle-...
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Kummy
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I disagree, if you cheat you should pay the piper. they should look into this and make them pay. Belichick should be suspended for a year and the patriots should find. The should also ban video camera's from practice and training....
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Mike Trigg
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I practically took a day of mourning when I heard #4 was calling it quits. But I think I'd be even more depressed, surprised and stunned if he changed his mind and decided to return. And the though of him playing for another NFC North team (as LeRoy Butler insinuated) is unfathomable. Seeing Favre trot out on to the field in Vikings purple would probably put me into immediate cardiac arrest.
Brett -- please, please, please... Stay Retired! Don't tarnish your legacy with this nonsense....
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Shoe92
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I don't believe you can be a true football fan and not have respect for #4. He's done it all on the field and off. Unfortunately, he did it all for the worthless Packers!!! Now, if he really wants to prove himself and add something to his amazing career, he should come to Chicago. Even if Favre follows the sadly pathetic patterns of other superstar athletes dreaming of postponing their retirement, he would be a welcomed alternative to the Bears current quarterback---whose name I cannot even ...
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Big Bear
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Good guess that Cuban would get rid of Johnson. But the person Cuban should be firing is himself. The Kidd deal was foolish, and dienfranchised the coach. And the pressure he put on in the playoffs was detrimental. Johnson's a smart guy who deserves another season. ...
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Wolverine
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It's not a matter of whether he deserved to get waxed. Cuban needed to make a change, because beating his head against the wall for another couple years with what they have now wasn't going to get it done. I think at the core of it all is the fact that Avery didn't know how to use JKidd and they will need to make the most of Kidd next year in order to be a championship quality team. Perhaps another coach can inject some life into that team and make a run next year. I hated the Kidd deal to start...
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Cheesehead
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Well... it looks like speculation over the #1 pick in the NFL draft is over, since the Dolphins have already had a press conference announcing it will be Jake Long.
http://sports.espn.go....
I have to give Miami credit. Unlike the Idiots of the East Bay with Jamarcus, the Dolphins are actually going to get their #1 pick signed and into camp on time, so he has a chance of making an impact in his rookie season. Bu...
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Read the challenge again and think before you type, ShitStain. I'm not saying O-linemen aren't important. I'm not saying Miami doesn't need a radically improved O-line. I'm simply saying that forking over $57.75 million for a guy who hasn't played a single down in the NFL is ridiculous. This deal will make Long the highest paid O-lineman in the entire league -- by quite a bit, actually. His 5-year, $57.75M deal gets him an average of $11.5M/year. According to my research, the next closest guy is Joe Thomas, LT with the Cleveland Browns who has a 5-year, $43 million deal (only $8.6M/year).
Even better, let's compare the Jake Long deal to a guy like Steve Hutchinson. Hutchinson is a 3-time pro-bowler and one of the best, most reliable, veteran O-linemen in the entire league, and the Vikings signed him as a free agent for an average of only $7M/year. The Dolphins could have signed 2 stud O-linemen for the price they're paying Long.
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ShitStain
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Your argument is ignorant. O-lineman create the holes that create great running backs and block to create great quarterbacks. That is what sells tickets. I thought you were a "team" guy with your stupid argument about golf, but I guess your just an armchair athlete who never made a team. ...
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Cheesehead
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It must make Lions fans really proud to see so many of their previous picks listed among ESPN's all-time biggest NFL draft busts http://sports.espn.go....
As an NFC Norris division rival, it always brings a little chuckle to reflect on such names as Charles Rogers, Andre Ware, and Reggie Rogers. While I'm reflecting on it, have the Lions ever been good???...
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Wolverine
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Hindsight is 20/20. Yea sure, a lot of the Lions picks have not worked out so well, but I don't remember a lot of people saying Charles Rogers was a terrible pick on draft day. Or Andre Ware for that matter. These guys were all highly rated by the so called experts. The NFL draft is a crapshoot -- the one lesson teams should have learned by now is to stay away from criminals. After that, it's very tough to predict who will be the standouts.
I challenge YOU Cheesehead to tell me who in 3 year...
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Big Bear
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With the news that #4 is calling it quits, the discussion can begin in earnest about whether he was the greatest QB ever. It's safe to say that if he had won a few more Super Bowls, this wouldn't even be a debatable question. With the records for career TDs, passing yards, wins, consecutive starts, and many others all his, not to mention 3 MVPs (more than any other QB) and 9 pro bowls, the only "blemish" on his record is that he only won one Super Bowl. If he had won again in '97 and this yea...
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ShitStain
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Tom Brady has already surpassed Favre. Is there a more important stat than Super Bowl wins? I think not. I'd argue that Favre is in the top 10, but no way number 1. You have to get out of Green Bay and talk to people that aren't brain washed. His last pass was an interception - indicative of his whole career where he tried to do it all himself. Great player, but not even close to the best. ...
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McGeeK
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ShitStain, your screen name reminds me of someone who might be too competitive in sports, while not regarding the well-being of their under garments. Just because you leave tracks in your under garments while playing golf, doesn't make it more of a sport....
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I don't have a business card, but you're right, I would DEFINITIVELY put my degree on it. I take from that comment that you probably never graduated from high school and the hand-eye coordination you're talking about refers to you copying test answers from other students. Golf is a pastime participated in for pleasure. Baseball includes running and sweating, which makes it a sport. If golf is a sport, then playing chess standing up is one too.
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ShitStain
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And yours makes you sound like an egomaniac - I suppose you have your degree on your business card - dork. Sports are about hand eye coordination, mental toughness, endurance and focus. All of these attributes are needed to play, but more importantly to compete, in golf and in any other "sport." If golf is not a "sport" than what makes baseball a sport? ...
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Now you are proving you are a total narcissistic dork. By stating you don't have a business card you want me to A. make fun of you for not having a job so you can tell me that you are retired and smart and successful (btw - no one cares) B. you are an unemployed slob. Either way you are definitely a non athlete that can't walk and chew gum at the same time. If you could, you would call golf a sport and actually be able to break 120. Take a lesson pocket protector boy.
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