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Just like all other sport leagues it benefits the league if they have what they call large markets to be in the finals. The NHL has tried this for years AKA Toronto Make Beliefs. For some reason these leagues think if they have a large market team in the finals they will make more money. Look at the packers they are a small market team but draw more fans. LA can't even support a NFL team and that is a large market. So I do think that sport leagues do convince officials to say their calls to bene...
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30-Jul-2008 19:12
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Just like all other sport leagues it benefits the league if they have what they call large markets to be in the finals. The NHL has tried this for years AKA Toronto Make Beliefs. For some reason these leagues think if they have a large market team in the finals they will make more money. Look at the packers they are a small market team but draw more fans. LA can't even support a NFL team and that is a large market. So I do think that sport leagues do convince officials to say their calls to bene...
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30-Jul-2008 19:11
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The problem with Beasley is fit. Most NBA teams either need a solid point guard who can direct the offense, or a big man who can dominate the boards and get gravy baskets. Beasley is neither. He's a talent, no doubt. But if I were the Heat I'd trade down. They could probably get a Shaq replacement big man and a Wade complement point guard for that #2 spot....
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24-Jun-2008 22:06
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Big Bear
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I'm a Warriors fan, but there was something I never totally liked about Baron Davis. The guy just never felt like a true closer to me, or a true champion. He was just dragging, un-motivated (and sometimes injured) at clutch times. With Ellis coming into his own, they might be fine without Baron -- as long as they go out and get some playmakers in his place....
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Duncan
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You're high big bear. Baron was the best thing the warriors ever had going and they STILL didnt make the playoffs!! They are going to be a disASTER without baron. good luck making the playoffs now warriors fans!!!...
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eze4603
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Who's with me saying that Kobe got destroyed by the Celtics during their final of the playoffs? ...
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Duncan
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It wasn't Kobe getting shut down, it was others not stepping up. so sorry to say it, but my man pau didnt get it done. and lamar was nowhere to be seen. the lakers win when kobe can distribute, but nobody else was there to make the shots when it counted. you cant put this on kobe....
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Big Bear
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What was that last night? The Celtics, from the supposedly weaker Eastern Conference, who had barely made it by the lowly Hawks, suddenly came to play. And the Lakers just had no fight left. Gasol was man-handled...again. Kobe couldn't get anything to fall. And their bench was non-existent (still not sure why Luke Walton even has an NBA contract except for his geneology). The Lakers D was atrocious. How did Phil not have them better prepared? I guess it just shows you good D beats good O ...
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Kummy
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Dude the better team won. All the Lakers have is a selfish Kobe, you stop him you stop the team. There was no chance the lakers or any western team would have won. The celtics were pegged to win from day one with PP, KG, RA on the same team. Plus I think Phil got out coached. he did what he does sit on the bench and not say a word how are the lakers going to get motivated with that on the bench scared to say anything to Kobe.
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Duncan
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how pathetic that this guys claiming that the whole nba is corrupt... he will do anything to make his sentence less and is hurting the sport with all these claims....
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That game last night was a joke. The celtics are a real class act shooting 3's and reverse dunks when they are up by 40. My lakers let me down, but obviously in the 22 years since the celtics won a title they forgot how to be classy winners.
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Cheesehead
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Yeah, no kidding. Presumably if the NBA was fixing games they wouldn't have allowed the Celtics to hand the Lakers their ass on a tray with a 39-point win. Game 7 certainly would have been a better outcome for Stern & Co....
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Kummy
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I think pierce is being over shadowed by KG and the rest of the stars on the team and has to resort to faking injuries to get the crowed behind him so he can be the hero. Too many stars on one team and not enough Ball to go a round. I laughed my ass off when I seen him in the wheel chair and then come back to the court and score a couple of three's. What would have made things interesting is if he would have wheeled him self on the court sitting in the chair and started to play murder ball and s...
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Wolf man you have nothing on me ... Taking you down.
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Wolverine
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While I agree with you that the entire injury thing was ridiculous, to say that Paul Pierce is being over shadowed by ANYONE on that Celtic team is ludicrous. He has been THE MAN through every series in the playoffs. His balls are big and bursting with loads of confidence. Game seven against Cleveland was a Pierce extravaganza and then he continued his awesomeness against my Pistons, unfortunately.
You can't say the same about Jesus Shuttlesworth or KG, who likes to pass up 10 foot jumpers i...
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Duncan
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lakers showed last night why theyre the #1 team in the nBA! defeating the champs in 5. kobe is crazy --he's on a nother level all TOGETHER! if the c-men even make it, they are going to be swept!!...
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Cheesehead
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More like 6 if you're lucky, sucka!!! Celtics are showing some grit. They nearly choked tonight after being up 24 with like 7 minutes to go. But they took care of business at home. The mighty Lakers look they don't have an answer for the Celtics. Your man Gasol is getting man-handled by Perkins and KG. Kobe is too little, too late. Lamar is being his usual un-inspiring, non-clutch self. And the rest of the Lakers bench isn't getting it done....
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TheColonel
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So the Chicago Bulls somehow managed to sneak up and take the #1 pick in the NBA draft lottery, which leaves them in the enviable position of getting to choose between Michael Beasley and Derrick Rose.
Reminds me of having to choose between Dwyane Wade and Carmello Anthony. And and I'll that question today-- which of those guys would you rather have for the 2009 season if you could pick today?
But back to this years draft. I think Beasley is the right guy-- a lefty who can effortlessly...
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Packer Backer, I will concede the point that having a guard like Jordan, Magic, Kobe, or LeBron on your team is a good thing, and if any of them were in the 2008 draft, I would take them over Beasley. But so is having a forward like Bird, Worthy, Erving, Barkley, or Duncan. What I am saying is that Derrick Rose, while showing flashes of brilliance all year and sustained stretches of dominance in the tourney, is still a very unproven commodity. Remember Corey Maggette who was a freshman at Duke in 1999 who came off the bench but showed such potential that some were calling him the #1 pick before he fell to #13 with Seattle. Beasley already can score from anywhere on the court, and just because SOME guards can develop a dependable jumper doesn't mean Rose will. Don't get me wrong, as a fan, I'd be more excited to have Rose on my team, but John Paxson will look at the lack of inside scoring in the last 20 years and will take the sure thing-- and he's right to do it.
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Packer Backer
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I'll take Rose. We'll see if Beasley will want to bang night in and night out in the NBA to get those 20 / 10 games. How many guys in the NBA actually get 20 / 10? Try nobody. A solid point guard that can score is much more important. Whether it's Jordan, Kobe, LeBron, Magic, the most dominant teams have been led by guards (with few exceptions like Duncan). The only knock on Rose is that he can't shoot that well. Neither could Kobe or Jordan when they first came in the league. And your a...
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Wolverine
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Now that we know the Chicago Bulls have the number one pick in this June's NBA draft, the pressure is on them to make the right pick. There are only two choices, Michael Beasley and Derrick Rose. Sort of like last year, when it was between Durrant and Oden.
It's not a slam dunk decision, but I think you have to go with Derrick Rose, for the following reasons:
1. A top notch playmaking point guard is the hardest thing to acquire in the NBA. When you get a shot a great one in the draft, you...
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TheColonel
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You are right that Rose was dominant in the NCAA tournament, but he wasn't even the best player on his own team for most of the year. He has all the tools, but I am not ready to roll the dice on him, and the Bulls won't either, despite his hometown roots.
Everyone wants a Chris Paul, but how do you know you are not picking a Stephen Francis or Stephon Marbury. Beasley is somehow who is guaranteed to give you 20-10 a nite, and will score effortlessly from anywhere on the floor. And he's got...
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Duncan
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Is there really any doubt? The Spurts were lucky to get by the hornets last night. Gasol will give Duncan (no relation) all he can handle -- plus he hasn't been playing well anyway, almost fouled out of last night's game with like 18 points. And whoever comes out of the East is going to be a joke. The Celts can barely get their shoes tied, so I think the Pistons take the East. But it won't matter: Lakers will take either East team 4-0 in the finals. Won't even be close....
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DID YOU SEE THAT TONIGHT COLONEL SANDERS!? Coming back from 20 points down in the third. The Lakers are the TEAM OF DESTINY!!!!
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TheColonel
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4-0 in the Finals? That's a big claim. Reminds me a bit of what most people thought of the Giants chances before this year's Super Bowl. Or else the 2006 World Series where analysts were saying the National League might as well be called Quadruple A, then then St Louis beats Detroit 4-1. Or Phi Slamma Jamma against a stacked Lousville team in the 1983 Final 4 that was supposed to be the "real" finals, but oops NC State wins over (H)Akeem and Clyde.
The Western Conference looked dominant a...
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TheColonel
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We know that David Stern and ABC are rooting big-time for Lakers-Celtics, and you might even see some refereeing to prove the point.
But let me tell you, its not gonna happen. Out West, the Spurs are just getting warmed up. They dispatched Phoenix effortlessly, did the absolute minimum against the Hornets except win when they needed to, and are finally ready to step up and play some serious hoops. Duncan hasn't even been playing well yet, and we all know Pops is gonna out-coach the Zen Mas...
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TK
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I'll take you on Colonel. With a Celtics game 1 win already in hand and Detroit looking sluggish after a week's rest, I think you'll see Boston advance in 5 games. Chauncey was not a factor on offense, and if he's still hurt, you are not gonna see Detroit make a serious run. Pierce is rejuvenated and as long as he's knocking down shots and Garnett keeps his all around game intact, it won't be a close series.
As for LA-San Antonio, I have a one word answer: Kobe. He wants it bad, to get e...
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TK
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3404115&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines
Charles Barkley said earlier tonight that he is done gambling. Period. Well, for the next year or two. Speaking of gambling, who wants to bet that he's saddled up to the blackjack tables by the time the NBA finals are done? Barkley was a great NBA player, one of my top three favorite of all time. But the guy has lost $10 million in Vegas over the years. Its gonna take more than a claim on TV to get me ...
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Mike Trigg
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You think it will take till "the time the NBA finals are done"? I'll bet you he was on his T-Mobile calling his bookie at the first commercial break on TNT. The scuttle butt today was that, despite kinda sorta apologizing and claiming that he paid his $400K to Wynn, that the debt actually hadn't been paid! Now AP is running an article as of 49 minutes ago, saying that he actually has paid it now. But there's just no question this guy has an EPIC gambling problem!...
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Mike Trigg
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For someone who grew up as a Pistons fan, you certainly don't show 'em much love. I haven't gone back to look at the stats, but they're almost certainly the most successful pro sports franchise the city of Detroit has ever seen -- no question more so than the Lions or Tigers, and probably more than the Wings as well. Why you no show no love!?!?!...
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Wolverine
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I am a very, very loyal fan to all of my hometown sports teams. Don't confuse my sound logic with any type of distaste for my teams. In the case of the Pistons franchise, I have nothing but respect for what Joe Dumars has built. He is the smartest NBA executive in the league. He recognized that Ben Wallace wasn't worth paying for, so he let the Bulls get ripped off. He went out and got a Sheed when everyone was writing him off as disruptive. He traded Jerry Stackhouse for Rip Hamilton. He brough...
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PatsFan
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I grew up a Larry fan and lived for the Celts. This is back when there was no question about the Pats cheating since they sucked in a really torturous way.
Despite that, Just got through watching Game 7 of the Celts/Cavs and I have to say that I had more fun watching reruns of last year's World Series of Poker than live NBA playoffs.
Three reasons why Poker is better to watch:
1) A fat slob who sits at home and plays poker on his computer can come out of nowhere and win - oh yeah and hi...
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Mike Trigg
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You're losing it, PatsFan. I would have thought a win in the Garden against a 45-point performance by LeBron James would have stirred up some fan instinct in you. I think you've just lowered your expectations over the death march that has been Celtics basketball the last 20+ years. I guess it's hard to blame you -- the Lakers have been to 7 NBA Championships, and won 4 of them, since the Celtics last went to the dance.
Plus, watching poker is like watching paint dry....
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TheColonel
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So its the favorite past time of every talking head. Whenever a new player emerges and reaches a certain level of play, all the Hubie Browns of the world want to name him as the descendant of someone from the 70s, 80s, or 90s. How many people have ridiculously been put out there as possibly the next Jordan?
So enter Chris Paul. In just the last day I've heard him described as the second coming of Tiny Archibald-- not the point guard who matured and won titles with Larry Bird but the 3rd ye...
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Yeah, KJ was definitely more athletic. Remember that baseline dunk over Hakeem? I'd say the main difference is that Paul is just flat better. KJ was never going to be the best guy on his and lead it deep into the playoffs. Look at New Orleans roster. Paul has been dragging these guys on his shoulders to the top of the Western Conference.
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Wolverine
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I agree that all the comparisons become quite annoying, especially the ones that just don't make any sense at all, like Chris Paul and Magic Johnson. Even the Isiah Thomas / Chris Paul comparison comes up, which is ridiculous because Isiah played a much more athletic style of hoops. But, there is one Chris Paul comparison that is pretty darn good and that one is Kevin Johnson of Phoenix Suns fame. Paul is probably a little bit better, considering his court vision and shooting range, but those tw...
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Cheesehead
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Wuff... that was a weak showing by King James. 12 points, 2-for-18 from the floor, and a missed open lay up that would have tied it late. LeBron isn't carrying anyone anywhere with a performance like that. The Celtics defense is good enough to take him out, and nobody else will be able to step up. Celtics-Pistons will be the East showdown....
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Still think the Celtics will pull this out, but man are they looking mediocre right now. It's like a battle of the least worst in the East.
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TheColonel
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I think you are right on Detroit, boring as that is for all of us, but I wouldn't be too quick to jump on the Celtics bandwagon. Let's not forget that Atlanta (Atlanta!!) took them to seven games. Atlanta probably would not have won a game in a single Western Conference series.
Now in game three in Cleveland last night the Cavs trounced the Celts without even needing much from King James. You wait until Lebron finally gets pissed off and starts putting up performances like he did in last y...
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swampymilf
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Reading the link below about all the NCAA players who are coming out early is a shame. some are slam dunks, but others are going to the wall of shame. Some of these boys wont have any playing time at the show and will be washed up in no time. Just like in school where there are academic standards, there should be some NBA/NCAA coalition to help advise these kids as to what to do with their lives. Hell, I still dont know what I want to do with mine at 38, much less 19-20 yrs old.
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Cheesehead
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Y'know, I used to think that way too. But now my mind set is "if you can get the money, nobody should get in the way of you taking it." You never know what's going to happen in sports. You decide not to declare for the NBA draft, and the next thing you know you blow an ACL, miss the season, and go largely forgotten and un-drafted the following year. You cost yourself and your family potentially millions of dollars. I agree at some point down the ladder, these guys need a reality check, but...
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Cheesehead
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Seeing the Lakers so easily finish their sweep the Nuggets tonight eases the pain of Golden State not making it to the playoffs. Although, I think the Warriors would have put up a better fight, the Lakers are looking pretty damn tough right now.
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Wolverine
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Get over your damn Warriors Cheeseball. Just think of all the hours you got back in your life by not having to watch them play a six-game series with the Lakers, which DEFINITELY would have resulted in an exit. You got some kind of false sense of hope from that Dallas series last year. What we've learned since then is that Dallas is as fragile, weak-minded team that matched up very poorly with the Warriors. I don't think it had much to do with the Warriors actually being a very good team. Utah p...
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Go Bears
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