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Mike Trigg
1 Vote
50%
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This guy is just absolutely KILLING me!!! Following on the heels of my previous "Zito is the biggest bust" rant http://www.smacknatter... I need to get back up on my soap box after that absolutely HORRENDOUS outing yesterday. I mean, what the fuck was that?!? 7 hits and 6 runs in 4 innings!? Zito's 5.87 ERA is second worst in the NL, behind some dude named Ian Snell, who sounds like a tax accountant from Scranton,...
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lazlong
1 Vote
50%
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You raise the question of whether the biggest bust should be defined by the biggest fall from grace (penthouse to the outhouse, clearly the Zito category) or biggest gap between expectations and performance (premature glorification, see Ryan Leaf, below). Regardless, your quest reminds me of a Wings episode (hey, it was on when I was in law school -- who wants to read about common law property rights?) when the brothers are trading attempts at identifying the foulest smell ever and Brian comes u...
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Cheesehead
2 Votes
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When you think about it, there really is an inexorable march towards instant replay. I'm talking beyond the latest discussion of just foul balls and home runs in baseball, but for every play in every sport. The technology is there, and, more importantly, the way fans watch the game is so much more advanced now. With HD, instant replay and Tivo, every fan now sees every play and knows exactly what the right call should be. Do we really expect a bunch of 60-year-old dudes ...
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My point is that the human element *will* be removed because technology will force it to happen. This won't happen next year, or probably even in 10 years, but we will have computer-officiated games, like it or not. There actually shouldn't be that many "judgment" calls -- did the O tackle hold? put sensors on the defensive players jerseys; did the runner go outside the basepath? put laser lines between the bases. A lot of so-called "subjective" plays really just mean "the shit went down so fast, we don't really know what the hell happened." And, in the long run, fans won't stand for that. The question will always be posed: if we use technology for X, why don't we also use it for Y? Until, eventually, human error in officiating, will be gone.
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lazlong
1 Vote
33%
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I'm not really sure if you mean (1) you want the human element removed or (2) you merely think the human element will be removed. Doesn't matter, you're crazy. While I can see balls and strikes going automated and the various line calls (tennis, football, baseball, hockey), but not the many judgment calls -- holding, hooking, basepath interference, intentional fouls, etc. You don't want a ref taking into consideration whether it's period one of regular season game vs the 2nd OT of game 7 of the ...
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SmackDaddy
1 Vote
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Yes, we need instant replay in baseball.
I consider myself a purist. I understand that, as part of any sporting event, officials are human and are prone to error just like the players. I also understand that for the sake of the flow of a game and for simple practical purposes, it would be unreasonable to solely rely on an automated form of officiating.
But the result of a game should not suffer from the errors of officials. It’s not fair to the players who have skin in the game. If i...
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I completely agree that the game is subjective in terms of calling balls/strikes. Therefore, as originally stated, I would not support replay to make these types of judgement calls. Again, I would support replay for non-judgement calls such as fair/foul balls or a runner’s status on the base paths. Replay was introduced in other sports to address clear factual errors. Using your logic, Duncan, a ball is either foul or fair.
I also disagree with the argument that initiating replay will open a Pandora’s Box of replays because there would be clear delineation of what types of decisions are reviewable and what are not. For instance, in the NFL, penalty decisions are not reviewable because they are judgement calls. If implemented in MLB, the same logic would certainly apply and the use of human umpires for judgement calls would be preserved. Fans are already accustomed to the logic of limited use replay systems in other sports and would surely accept it in baseball, as well.
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Duncan
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Baseball isn't like other sports. It's always been a subjective game. In basketball you either make the ball through the hoop or you don't. In football you either make the ball over the goal line or you don't. In soccer you put the ball in the net or you don't. But in baseball... it has always been one person's opinion as to whether its a ball or a strike. Also I don't believe you can just start with some calls in baseball. Once any plays are subject to replay somebody will want every call su...
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Smackalicious
5 Votes
83%
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So much pain last night to see my Yanks get the PISS beaten out of them! Some send off for Yankee Stadium. and don't even get me started on Hank and gang- that's a subject of another rant. The only bright side to the whole game turned out to be a fuck up by the homeplate ump who waived off delgado's 3 run HR. Here's what the ump said after
"I (expletive) it up. I'm the one who thought it was a (expletive) foul ball. I saw it on the replay. I'm the one who (expletive) it up so you can put that...
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Kummy
1 Vote
16%
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Stop your crying we all had teams that lost out to a bad call. There should never be instant replay in baseball, it would cause the games to go way to long and fans like me who already don't watch baseball because it is so SLOW would never come back to watch any game if I knew it would last longer then the 3 plus hrs already. Don't you worry your yanks will end up climbing back into contention by over paying someone or making a trade for some supper star that his existing team can't afford to pa...
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All you voters are suckers.... Instant replay is for the blind
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pete
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Trivia question: which MLB team currently has both the lowest ERA (by 12 points) and the highest slugging percentage (by 31 points)....
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Wolverine
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Statments like this made in April are foolish. Sure, the DBacks are off to a blazing start, but you need to caveat your statement by ending it with "in April." Injuries, slumps, schedule, and plenty of other factors will come into play sooner or later.
Take a look at whom Zona has played so far. A bunch of sub.500 shit teams, mostly in-division. My Tigers will have a better record by the end of July. ...
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Mike Trigg
3 Votes
33%
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My two teams, the Brewers and Giants, finished up their series today with the Brew Crew completing an impressive sweep of a totally un-impressive team. While Zito was busy driving his ERA towards double digits (giving up runs in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th AND 5th innings!), Sheets threw a shut-out. The juxtaposition was painful to watch, nearly as painful as writing off that $126 million is going to be. The good news for Giants fans: there's only 5 more years left in his contract.
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Cheesehead
6 Votes
66%
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Forget top 5. After Zito's start this season, he's making a legitimate case for "BIGGEST BUST IN MAJOR LEAGUE HISTORY." Seriously, it's hard to come up with many names in front of him.
The guy got the absolute piss beaten out of him last night. He's 0-6 with an ERA of 7.52! 7.52!!! And now the Giants announced they're sending him to the bullpen.
http://sports.espn.go....
Who is worse? Ever. All time. Any posi...
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smokhaus
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http://sports.espn.go....
This season isn't starting the way CC Sabathia or Indians fans hoped. If things stay that way, he could be the Giants ace next year.
Conventional wisdom before this season was that Sabathia would have a typically solid year and be signed by the Yankees. Now, the Yankees are probably not scared away by a bad year and will still open the bank, and we'll be exactly where we thought we would be. But if Sabathia's performance st...
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Cheesehead
2 Votes
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I don't even understand this argument. You're basically saying "the Giants have a lot of young pitchers, so we should sign another one (who is sucking this year, like most of the Giants rotation) so that we can *trade* him to get a hitter." Why not save yourself the game of musical chairs and just go out and get a fucking hitter!?...
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smokhaus
4 Votes
57%
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Encouraging news in the Giants game wrap up:
Lewis will be called upon regularly now in left field. The Giants announced after the game that outfielder Dave Roberts will undergo left knee surgery Saturday and could miss significant time.
Not only are the Giants losing Roberts' lifetime OPS+ of 89 (this year: -22), but they are giving a youngster (well, he's younger than Roberts) are chance. If Lewis succeeds during his increased playing time, Sabean will wise up and jettiso...
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IronSheik
3 Votes
42%
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Holy crap, this is absolutely the dumbest Smackdown that I could ever possibly imagine. First of all, nobody gives a crap about the Giants, and, if Dave Roberts getting hurt is the thing that is going to get them going, then things are worse than anyone knew.
How about a topic like, "Big Papi's slow start is going to last all year?" or "The Tigers' start is amusing because you can't buy a title." If you want it to be Giants' related, how about "Brian Sabean should be fired."
But, no, I h...
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Cheesehead
5 Votes
83%
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So it was an accepted fact coming in to this season that the post-Bonds-era Giants had no hitting. It was supposed to be their deep bullpen that was going to carry them. I know it's only spring training, but so far their pitchers are getting shellacked. They're 3-9 in spring training so far, and, as I type, are getting pounded 15-4 by the Royals. Zito, the poster child of over-paid pitchers, looks like he's gearing up for a repeat of last season.
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We'll see how Lincecum does tonight, but everything the Giants have done since opening day proves my point. The Giants were supposed to have this great rotation, specifically with Zito, Cain, and Lincecum. Zito I could go on for days (and have an open challenge posted). Meanwhile, Cain got ripped pretty good yesterday. Lincecum is the only guy with a win. These guys just aren't scaring anyone. The Giants have been outscored 42-16 in their 7 games this season. It's going to be a looooong season, smokhaus.
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smokhaus
1 Vote
16%
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Yes, it looks like the Giants will be historically bad. Certainly the team they're trotting out there now supports that. But who's to say this current team will play the majority of the 162 games? Certainly the team will be reconstituted with the hopes of avoiding the worst-ever offensive output.
Point is, why is everyone jumping to this conclusion already? The baseball season is a long one, folks....
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You're making my points for me. The present team is bad -- historically bad. But there's no way this present team will be the current team in July. Rather than fighting for the division title or a wildcard spot, the Giants are going to be challenging for respectability, which in this case means avoiding the lowest runs scored per 162, which is 2.9/game by an early Colt .45s team. Sabes will make moves to avoid this blemish. Hopefully, he's looking for work soon, and he doesn't need that stigma on his resume.
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swampymilf
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fast ball down the middle of the plate with Arod, the winning run at the plate. Puhleez. A high school pitcher wouldnt have made that pitch. Borowski is not a closer. the cubs were brilliant to rid themselves of him, the Marlins let him off the hook. Cleveland is in for a long season if borowski continues to close games. ...
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zEE
1 Vote
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Pickle
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There's a lot of hand-wringing about the possibility that Barry Bonds, size 8 3/4 head and all, may hit more career home runs than Hank Aaron. It will probably happen, and we really shouldn't care. Here's why.
1) Nothing will do more to highlight the fraud that Bonds has become than for him to set the record. Imagine the stories the next day (in every paper but the San Francisco Chronicle) -- the leads will run something like this: "An oddly silent crowd at Shea Stadium watched Barry Bonds...
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zEE
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SmackDaddy
6 Votes
85%
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Reason 1: Cricket players are better athletes.
- Baseball games average less than four hours. Cricket matches last between 8 hours and 5 days.
- Baseball players run, if they’re having a good day, 240 ft when batting. Cricket batsmen run several kms.
- There is no out-of-bounds in cricket. Every ball is in play.
- Despite not being allowed to bend their arm, cricket bowlers bowl as fast as baseball pitchers throw which requires incredible strength, fitness, and control.
- David Well...
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mrjim
1 Vote
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As I watching watching the India VS Australia cricket friendly on ESPN 8 (The Ocho) the other night I was thinking the exact same thing!
Come on...are you serious or just trying to making noise? Stop trying to sell this crap because no one is buying.
Regarding your reason #4...When all those international superstars aren't playing for the home countries in a tournament, guess where their playing...MLB. ...
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Cheesehead
5 Votes
71%
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This "revelation" about Pete Rose betting for the Reds to win every game is so annoying http://sports.espn.go....
Does anyone anywhere in the universe give a shit about this anymore? The guy's been out of baseball for ages. He's already admitted to it. The story was first written back around the turn of the 19th century. Yet ESPN still features ...
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bMoney
2 Votes
28%
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Nobody gives a crap about Pete Rose... except for the billion people who actually want to be able to RESPECT their favorite athletes. Floyd Landis, Zinedine Zidane, Barry Bonds -- all this s%!& kills the ethos of sports, the ONE arena where we thought we didn't have to be cynical. Damn straight we give a crap....
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Packer Backer
7 Votes
77%
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As much as I hate the Yankees more than the Red Sox, I don't see much difference between the two philosophies of HUGE payrolls and thinking they can just pay to win. The Yankees try it with big offense and the Red Sox try to replicate the World Series win with paying for pitching. It's all the same and makes it difficult to watch the sham that is baseball....
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PatsFan
2 Votes
22%
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The difference is simple. The Sox are just plain better at it. Yankees pay top $ for the ultimate mercenaries who inevitably care more about #1 than winning a title. Think Sheffield, Unit, and so on.
Sox pay for guys who want to win and are willing to bleed for it. Schilling, Mantkievitc (sp?), Dave Roberts, and so on....
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